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Can Dream Academy succeed without the story
تم نشره في 2023/10/04
Can a talent-focused music reality show work? That’s what Dream Academy aims to do. Created by Hybe and Geffen, the show aims to create a global girl group trained up in the K-pop ways. So far, so good. Yet, the show goes in a different direction, skipping over any story parts and only shows trainee’s performances. Only showing a show’s performances without any drama or narrative is a first for K-pop. While it’s noble for a show to emphasize talent and skill over any drama narratives, doing this has been a major, controversial point to many fans. With that said, can a K-pop influenced show thrive without the story? Let’s find out! ---------------------------- WORK WITH ME: If you're a company or content creator looking to break into K-pop and Asian pop culture, let's see if we can work together: ► https://www.popsori.com/work-with-me/ ---------------------------- FREE E-BOOK (EMAIL LIST): Grab our free ebook called "26 K-pop bangers from 2022-2023 for newcomers (and even hardcore fans!): ► http://www.popsori.com/subscribe/ ---------------------------- TIME STAMPS: 0:00 The breakdown on Dream Academy 3:30 The positives of Dream Academy 6:36 Many fans talk about skill and talent 7:43 So there’s no story. What else is there? 8:57 Why having a story is so important? 10:41 Most fans prefer story over talent 12:43 The big truth is… 13:41 Finally get some story 17:00 Can Dream Academy succeed with no story? ---------------------------- JOIN OUR DISCORD: Wanna talk more K-pop in-depth with me (Jason) and other like-minded folk? Need some new music recommendations? Then join our Discord! ►https://discord.gg/pdtxzfD ---------------------------- ✅ SUPPORT POPSORI ON PATREON: Supporting Popsori is 100% voluntary, as it's awesome you even watch our videos. But if you do support us, we greatly appreciate it. Thank you. ► http://www.patreon.com/popsori ---------------------------- MUSIC CREDITS: ► Background music: https://soundcloud.com/lakeyinspired Harris Heller – Streambeats https://www.streambeats.com/ Epidemic Sound https://www.epidemicsound.com/ ---------------------------- 🌐 WEBSITE: ► http://popsori.com ---------------------------- PERSONAL SOCIAL MEDIA: ► Twitter: https://twitter.com/iamjangta ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamjangta/ ---------------------------- SOCIAL MEDIA: ► Twitter: @iamjangta ---------------------------- 👋 HELLO - WHAT IS POPSORI? Hi, my name is Jason! I used to work in Korea for 11 years in the K-pop industry as a journalist, brand marketer, and data scientist. Now I talk about my experiences working in the K-pop industry here at Popsori. If you wanted to learn more about my background and why I created Popsori, here's an expanded bio here: https://www.popsori.com/about/down-to-earth/
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It’s impossible to be objective even if they tried because humans are subjective by nature and will vote however they please even if they’re supposed to vote based on talent. ... 143
I do think talent is important when it comes to people in the music industry, but K-pop and mainstream pop music in general relies so much on personality, it's hard to deny talent can sometimes take a backseat compared to other attributes. ... 52
One is to say that the fan name, which was voted on, is DeWolves!
The second was a message from Gina expressing overwhelming gratitude for 900,000 views on her MV "Freedom!"
And the comments are full of love and support, because all of us who followed A2K know how talented Gina is, and how deserving of success she is!
Her channel name is her actual name, Gina DeBosschere.
Congratulations, Popsori, on your very accurate video! 🙏😍🌺🏆 ... 22
Another problem is that the line distribution is horrific, I could barely see or hear some of the contestants. How am I supposed to vote for them if they didn’t have the opportunity to fully show themselves….
Also, personally I felt evil editing even in those short videos of content. That’s pretty sad that higher-ups try to manipulate votes like this. Either show a proper storyline, or don’t show it at all… ... 28
I am enjoying Dream Academy right now, but interacting with fans on weverse or sending fan letters to the participants, I realise I have nothing new to say. I love their skills and talent, I believe in their ability and I wish that for every mission that I can vote for more of them but there's nothing else to say. Maybe in one mission someone surprised you more than expected. But nothing else. There's literally nothing else, no friendships forming, no honest conversations that we see and it takes away from some of the experience. ... 2
But now I hate, I honestly can't remember anyone's name, except Samara that is the one from my country. I don't feel the connection, I don't have anything to associate the girls with other than their looks, country and talent (but all of them are talented). For me, It feels like a bunch of NPC, not in a mean way, but they don't make me want to cheer for anyone or to get to know them better.
And seeing from a voting point of view, I don't think it works, people are mostly voting based on country, since it's the only thing they can relate to. Like you can go these girls sings better but for most people talent is not enough, since on the long run, the fan will be staning the group because of the people on it, not only talent. ... 21
So yeah kinda same formula ... 7
btw, I just notice, I see a lot of Brooklyn in this video, she's quite a charm right? Must be your bias? ;) ... 6
I wonder if most survival show viewers are girls or women as opposed to guys? The reason I'm wondering is because I saw a poll once on whether athletes' stories matter for people watching the Olympics. The guys overwhelmingly said they don't care about anybody's story - they just want to watch the best in the world compete.
On the other hand, I found that many girls and women share my preference, which is that we will watch a sport we have no interest in if there is a compelling backstory for at least one athlete in an individual sport or at least one team in a team sport.
Speaking of teams, I strongly support the concept of team players in a K-pop group. A less talented individual might be a much better team player. It seems like the idols are closer than family as they seem to spend their days together, and live in dorms. Group cohesion, and positive morale is absolutely essential.
As much as people will claim on social media that they vote for "talent", there will be many votes in favour of somebody from their own country, or to whom they feel akin in another way. Maybe they even truly believe that person is the most talented?
Thank you very much for the video! 🙏🤩🌺🪩✨ ... 7
all performance.
Because so many people weren’t able to have that Para social relationship with him at the start compared to the other boy paraded after them where they came from a survival program and you can definitely tell where the difference was but ultimately it can work out depending on how the girls are portrayed and advertised once they are a group what kind of programs they go on what kind of YouTube series and programs the company creates for them and people get to know them more. ...
What is the primary market for this group? Is it Korea? I assume it will be since La Sseraffim made a guest appearance. If that is the case, I think that the group will not be successful because it will be too "international." I have written about this in a comment on a previous video. People want their K-pop to be Korean. A few non-Korean East Asians (including Korean-Americans) might be ok, but it seems to me that a group will not be accepted with more than one obviously non CJK member. Is it racist? Maybe, but that is the reality of the market. Koreans want their K-pop to be Korean; international fans also want their K-pop to be Korean - that is why they are into K-pop rather than Western (meaning "American") pop. It isn't merely aesthetics. As you mentioned in the video, K-pop is primarily about the parasocial relationship. The music is not the product, the idol is the product. The music is just the medium through which the idol can be presented. It seems to me that barring some exceptional circumstance, a group's members must all be able to appear on Korean TV shows and interact naturally (or as naturally as something scripted can be). They must be sufficiently familiar and comfortable in Korean culture that both the show and the idol's management company want to get them out there to be seen by the public. It isn't just that the idol needs to be able to interact with fans, but rather the idol needs to be able to interact well with other Korean celebrities - because that is what helps build the parasocial relationship. The odd cultural anomaly might be OK from time to time (like Park Joon Hyung or Jessi - but note that both of them seem to get along uncommonly well with Yoo Jae Suk), but if the member cannot be entertaining to most Koreans on Korean TV, that idol isn't helping the group's popularity.
Is the primary market the West? Geffen's involvement suggests that this might be the case. However, I am not sure that there is much demand for idol groups in the Western market. I get the feeling that this show is trying to make a group that will appeal to everybody, but in so doing, might end up making one that will fail to appeal to anybody. It would be great to be wrong about this, but I guess time will tell. ... 10
이 프로그램은 경쟁 과정을 넷플릭스에서 다큐멘터리로 제작해서
송출 예정이므로 HYBE측이 각 후보들의 리얼리티한 모습을 보여주지 못한다고,,
본 유튜브 방송은 일종의 넷플릭스의 본편에 대한 광고 성격이고 이점은 감안하여 시청하자,,,,,,^^
That's the shallow part of my concern. What I'm trying to say is, it's hard to view these girls with the same lens as we look at Korean artists. What made kpop interesting to us is not only the music but also the culture. It's difficult to take them seriously knowing that they're only mirroring what they see from other kpop groups. I would treat these shows like "Making the Band". ...